![]() 08/14/2020 at 11:13 • Filed to: None | ![]() | ![]() |
We’ve been doing training for the upcoming school year and its being done on zoom from our classrooms (I’m a high school physics teacher in Texas), our district decided to open with in person instruction in a week and we are completely unprepared. This morning we were scheduled for some diversity training, but instead it turned into a hype or “pump up” type motivational deal.
During one of the slick videos they made for the school I typed in the chat, “I hope the memorial video for all the teachers we lose to covid will be as well done!” All the teachers were supposed to be in the meeting and we had about 650 watching. Not 10min later my Principal and Vice Principal came into my room and told me I had to go home for the day for being “unprofessional”.
Whole conversation was about a minute long, he quoted my comment and asked me what my purpose was. I told him I wanted to bring attention to the real dangers of the pandemic and didn’t feel like the situation and safety of the teachers was being taken seriously. He responded with, “How’s this for serious (or attention, I’m not sure which), I’m sending you home for the day.” He had the gall to tell me the district is doing “everything possible” to keep teachers safe, to which I responded, “like have distance learning like all the nearby districts?” His response was, “Not all, not all, my wife’s district is going back to in person teaching next week.” I conceded the point that my statement was hyperbolic but reiterated the fact that the surrounding districts with similar composition and literally bordering us all went to distance learning for at least the first 2-3 weeks of school and with provisions to extend (the state allows the first 3 weeks without any issue and the option to extend for another 6 weeks if prudent, without any other special requirements and no lose of funding).
He told me to do the rest of the online training for today at home (silly since then there is no difference in what I’d be doing aside from the location and the meetings are virtual anyway.” I get to talk to him again on Monday; however, if I self screen (no training or materials provided for that) and have any symptoms or a temperature of 100F or more, I’m not supposed to come in. We were also notified last night that one of the teachers on our campus had a positive lab test for covid, but not to worry the cloth masks we brought from home (we’re told that we’d get some when school starts, but haven’t yet) kept us safe.
The district has no provisions for screening, contact tracing, or adequate plans for covering classes when teachers get sick. 60% of my students opted for in person classes (about 20 per class). The students were given the option to learn from home but the teachers had no option to teach from home. The “hybrid” model we’re supposed to use forces us to either pretend the in-person kids are virtual and have them watch from their laptops in class or have the virtual kids passively watch from the webcam (not yet installed) with little to no interaction with the teacher (the solution proposed was to use multiple screens and/or computers to try to simultaneously teach virtually and in person. When they tried to demonstrate this to us, the trainer broke down in tears because it went so poorly (the other trainer couldn’t get it to work at all for the first 30min and struggled the rest of the time).
But hey, 3 day weekend!
![]() 08/14/2020 at 11:19 |
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Sorry your boss is a dick.
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Man I’m sorry. It’s just a shitty situation all the way around.
I’m the furthest from an expert here, but I wonder why they wouldn’t have some teachers only handle remote learning and others handle in person as that would help drive interaction with kids who are remote learning as well. I suppose that would rise to fairness as I’d imagine remote would be preferable for most teachers and/or it might be challenging to have appropriate coverage in practice.
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Oof. I hate the justification of if someone else is doing something wrong then me doing the same things must be ok.
Friend of mine in Florida is facing similar issues. They’re having meetings without teacher input to determine course of action. She was given a “sanitation station”
So 6 classes a day, 30 students per class. Every desk is supposed to be wiped down between each class. So 180 desks a day. So how many sanitation packages will they get as scene above? 1 a day? A week? Is that supposed to last for the year? Nobody knows and nobody is answering questions.
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What a bunch of bullshit, but hooray for you for speaking your mind. Someone had to say it and that was pretty fucking funny.
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At least he’s in the building. The school board decided all this from virtual meetings...
The principal has never had the teachers’ backs and I’ve never felt that he’d side with me if anything happened.
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Sounds like your boss could use some diversity training of his own.
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Well that’s pretty... shitty.
Simultaneously saying they’re doing “everything possible” to keep teachers safe, while having the teachers physically present in buildings for a virtual training is an interesting combination.
I doubt you were the only teacher who had the thought that you wrote in the staff chat. Working in an environment where administration treats you in the way you’ve described doesn’t behoove you to act more professional than them.
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None of these decisions are being made with the intention of figuring out a good solution to providing school during a pandemic, while mitigating the health risks. It’s all about creating the appearance of everything being fine in spite of that not being the case, to suit the political agenda of the far-right anti-science cult that is unfortunately one of the two main players in our 2-party system.
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I’m sorry you have to be a public school teacher in a red state, which even in the best of times is an exercise of being completely shafted, repeatedly.
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Damn that sucks. My wife's a teacher and their online till October at least and I'm so thankful for that. Hope the rest of your day goes well.
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We were given 5-6 reusable clothes that will be washed nightly.
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Time for your lobotomy.
Obey, conform, all is well.
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Wow......
Hypothetically speaking it sounds like your district will be up a creek in a screen canoe without a paddle if suddenly a
portion of their teachers all have family medical leave act reasons to not be on campus.
The next county over from me which was debating a similar hybrid approach pivoted back to all online when they did the staffing math after all the family medical leave submissions (and pending retirements) that were submitted to HR. They simply didn’t have the instructional staff to make the in person portion work even with utilizing subs (which is a whole different issue).
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I’ve been keeping quiet all week and this morning was just surpassed my bullshit limit.
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Also, maybe relevant:
From the op-ed, areas where reopening shouldn’t be allowed based on recommendations from Harvard, the WHO, and the White House respectively. You’ll note Texas is red in all three.
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So, the students were given the option for online or in person instruction and just over half opted for in person. Teachers weren’t consulted or given any options. In fact, I just got a text form one of the teachers down the hall who has doctor documented underlying health conditions and requested to do online teaching from home. They told her she has to come to campus and either teach in her class or come in and teach remotely from one of the front office rooms.
The policy is that NO ONE is allowed to work from home.
![]() 08/14/2020 at 11:38 |
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Where the hell did they find alcohol wipes? I haven’t seen any of those in months.
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The principal has never had the teachers’ backs and I’ve never felt that he’d side with me if anything happened.
He’s probably too worried about his own job, and would have no serious qualms about throwing one of you under the bus to keep it.
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Yesterday, I asked about subs and what they’d do if a few people were out at the same time. The response was that they’d have the remaining teachers cover the classes during their planning periods. Which is to say, they have no plans and are just hoping things work out.
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Texas districts are free to do whatever they deem appropriate, and recent guidelines from the Texas AG said that local health officials cannot dictate open or close policies for the schools. Our district seems to be ahead of things. They’ve been working on using a platform called Schoology, and I think all the tech is in place. I guess we’ll find out next week.
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Yeah, I looked at those earlier this week. Yesterday we had a teacher in the building test positive and the district has added a live number tracker for positive cases.
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Last year during the diversity training he stated, “I know I’m not racist because in High School I played on the basketball team and had a black friend.”
In the next sentence he explained how nervous he was to attend his friends wedding since it’d be mostly black people at a black church.
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It’s more like he cares about the favor and support of the community, which has gifted him expensive vacations and other favors. His job is very secure, if he did literally nothing he could skate by on the school’s reputation and the efforts of the teachers for the rest of his career.
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I mean the comment was pretty unprofessional as much as I agree with you that in person school is insane at the moment in Texas.
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Well that’s unfortunate - if they did provide the option, do you think basically every teacher would take it?
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I just don’t understand why some people can’t be human for like 5 seconds. All your principal had to do was come in and say “hey man, I understand this is all very frustrating, trust me I get it, but my back is completely against the wall here. Please feel free to come talk to me anytime about your frustrations, but messages like the one you sent publicly are not professional, please don’t do that again.”
Instead the guy had to go on a power trip. The way he talked to you was so condescending. I don’t know what the job situation is like for teachers right now, but I imagine quite a few are taking early retirement or outright quitting, maybe there’s a spot at a better run school? I can’t imagine anyone is gonna turn down an extra pair of hands right now, but again I’m ignorant of the situation. Hope you stay safe as best you can.
![]() 08/14/2020 at 12:00 |
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And this idiot is in charge of a school!? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. merica.
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Not every teacher, but enough that we’d have to go to virtual only. I haven’t surveyed everyone, but we were all pretty happy 2 weeks ago when the plan was to teach virtually but from the school for the fist 3-6weeks of school (which was the recommendation of the County Health department, or at least a compromise they had with the school).
I’d estimate that a t the Senior High (11-12th grade campus I teach at), more than 80% of the teachers would chose to stay home if given the option.
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That's both sad and hilarious.
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This school is the high school I graduated from (with honors), originally it was my goal to work there. It was my idealized vision of what a school should be like, but you should never learn how the sausage is made. The Principal who was there while I was a student was ousted or driven to retirement by all the bureaucratic nonsense and his habit of standing up for his teachers. He was beloved by teachers and students alike. This Principal is tolerated.
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Good for you. I dont know what teachers, students and parents are supposed to do here. Im glad you spoke up.
![]() 08/14/2020 at 12:13 |
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Is that so you can better spread around the germs left on the desks?
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I guess. At least the CDC says that surface contamination isn’t a large concern for virus transmiss ion so I’m not really worried about it.
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Texas was a great place to be from. I sure hope your hyperbole doesn’t become reality. If it does, bless your principal’s heart.
I fear Texas is going to be in a world of hurt in a month or so which will set it up perfectly for the flu seaso n (a comorbidity to covid-19). But hey, children are indestructible.
I applaud your candor.
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True. It is such a useless gesture though, al cohol wipes at least do something.
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We’ve got 1100 staff members and over 8500 students, the numbers make it likely that they’ll be at least one.
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I think it is going to be far worse with flu kicking in. Not a single one of my wife’s colleagues in the medical field will send their kids to in person school. I’m sure some will, but not anybody we know.
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Our AP and honors classes are 40% in person and 60% virtual, while our on level classes are the opposite with 60% in person and 40% virtual.
I wouldn’t recommend sending a kid to school at my district.
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Holy crap...I’ve actually gotten fired from a job for something similar. Like, “security will show you to the door” with no warning.
Many people don’t appreciate gallows humor, especially if it’s in front of a large group.
Hopefully it all goes well!
Also: I lol’d.
![]() 08/14/2020 at 12:38 |
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Yeah, I'm only going to 40 % of Sturgis.
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I feel you man....I’m a substitute teacher up here in Nova Scotia (no permanent position yet). We’ve been lift out in the cold as to how subbing is going to work in the fall, and I’m VERY worried I’m not going to get enough work to financially get by and I am also very worried with their current plans to come back to the classroom here....for example, kids in Grade 4 or lower can choose to now wear a mask. For teaching staff, it’s mandatory.....but....if ONE of those below-Grade-4 kids gets COVID....how many others are they going to infect???
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If schools are open, there will probably be more sub opportunities than you can accept. If they are virtual, you won’t have any.
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Are you a public school educator? Do you belong to a union? If an administrator in my district... I’m a public school educator... pu
lled a stunt like that, my union would make them famous and have his head on a pike.
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There are parts of Sturgis you could do safely, but they’ve never been able to get people to wear helmets there so masks are probably a bit much to ask for. Ironically, whenever we’d drive through on our way camping it was pretty usual to see bikers with bandannas over their faces to keep from eating too many bugs. I bet there are few than normal just to make a statement.
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Texas is a right to work state, so the union has no power. We have to show up and do whatever the district says and we have no voice or recourse if we disagree.
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We must be on the same cycle, cause I’ve been talking crazy to the customer all week.
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I’m a teacher with two young kids in school. My oldest is in gifted classes and will do great no matter what is thrown at her. My youngest struggles and is possibly dyslexic. We’re trying to get her tested and support, but the public schools aren’t doing shit right now. They’ve been online for two weeks. My youngest hates it, is getting very frustrated and now has anxiety about going to her online classes. At this point she’d be better off taking a year off.
I work at three schools and teach nine different courses, so providing her support while also instructing online all day is not possible. If I was dictator I’d pay the salary of any teacher with kids who wanted to teach their own kids at home rather than other people’s kids via a computer.
I’m also in grad school, and blasted my through the first year, and only have three more courses to take this Fall, but this shit is going to be too much.
I have no fear of getting sick from this. Not because I don’t think it is real, but because the reality of life is that we have to navigate the risk of incapacitation or death every day, and sitting inside to avoid it is not worth it to me.
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Gonna be lots of teaching jobs soon, stay healthy and find a better district. Or state.
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It’s almost like being in a first world country! But Murka is cool too.
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Oh wow! I applaud you for being bold enough to put that comment out for all to see.
My district has in the last few days (very begrudgingly) decided to start with remote instruction for the first few weeks. I am to report to my building Monday for a day of zoom meetings ... For ... Reasons ... I guess.
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Tell them to get fucked. Go back as soon they accomplish that.
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I’m less worried about myself and more worried about the other teachers around me, most are over 50 and many have underlying health concerns or family members with health issues. The online stuff hasn’t been handled very well and some students will struggle with it (many struggle with in person instruction anyway).
Our “model” will not serve either the in person or virtual students very well, it hasn’t been tested or vetted by teachers and all of our concerns and issues have been ignored or brushed aside.
The admin lauded how well we did online instruction in the spring while caving to parents who complained that the online classes were useless.
Your situation sounds rough and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. I’d estimate that about 10 -25% of students won’t be successful with online instruction (about 5- 10% aren’t tru ly successful with any type of instruction). My biggest issue is that by opening early, we are prolonging the crisis and increasing the danger to staff, parents, and even students. It would be better if the virus magically disappeared over night and we were back to how things were a year ago, but that’s not an option or a possibility, so we need to make responsible decisions about where to go from here.
If cases had continued to go down over the summer and positivity rates weren’t nearly 25% where I’m at, I’d be much less concerned. However, none of the discussions or policies even approached the subject of what constitutes a safe environment to reopen (the county said it wasn’t safe, then the AG said the counties can’t decide and then the outbreak got worse and we changed from virtual for at least 3 weeks to in person immediately).
Teachers weren’t given any options or input, that’s my biggest issue. The parents heard that their kids are probably safe from the worst cases and symptoms and decided that they had no qualms or concerns about the staff or their children spreading the virus at home and in the community.
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As of now, even though we're starting remotely, if we had to stay put of the building for any reason, we'd have to get a sub.
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I got a couple emails from teachers at other campuses in support in the 10min between the comment and being told to go home for the day.
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Are they training your subs to do online classes? Our district trained 20 subs for online classes to be shared by the 11 campuses and over 800 teaching positions.
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That’s exactly why my district (very begrudgingly), just switched to remote learning. Although I have to report to the building Monday for an institute day of Zoom meetings.
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That’s not surprising - it’s what I would choose as well! This is just such a big problem composed of many, many smaller problems to solve. And when you solve one, another one pops up.
If only this pandemic had been handled the way it should’ve been from the beginning.
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One of the primary reasons my wife left the local school board was the new superintendent. He made promises to the public about her work that she could not keep. She was building/renovating schools at the time and he promised they would open the new building that she was working on four months ahead of schedule. He didn’t seem to understand contractual obligations and wasn’t willing to foot the bill for the accelerated schedule.
Some people just shouldn’t be in leadership.
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My son started virtual lessons this week. His classes so far are watching the lecture and/or a shared screen. He’s the only virtual student in most of his classes. Only one class has four virtual students.
I told him to give it two weeks and all of the students will go virtual.
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At least he didn’t also promise to have it come in under budget, unless he did. I cannot imagine what makes someone want to become a school administrator. It’s like for people who want to be executives in companies but don’t have the connections or skills to accomplish that.
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So they say. How many? No idea.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA,
fuck that was funny. Also fuck your admin staff and district
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HAHAHAHAHAHA,
fuck that was funny. Also fuck your admin staff and district
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Thank you for being a teacher. Thank you for doing your best in a really terrible situation. Thank you for being a voice of common sense in a world that seems to have lost it.
I wish the best of luck
over the next few months to all our educators. I don’t have kids but very much prefer to live in a world where they get the best education they can, safely.
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You said what everybody else was thinking, but everybody else was too much of a weenie to actually say it .
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Not sure...there is talk that subs may get ‘locked’ to only certain schools, so if I am only locked to, say, two schools...there’s a good chance there won’t be enough sub days for me to cover an entire week :(
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We’ve got a lot of teachers who are scared or upset with the situation, but there isn’t an avenue or organised means of voicing it. The P rincipal’s son got a case of Covid with very minor symptoms (he’s in his early 20's ) over the summer. His job required him to get tested and he had to quarantine (didn’t sound like the son lives with the Principal).
We’ve had multiple staff members get sick, and at least one was pretty serious and very early. And they still don’t take it seriously. More worried about missing the football season than the health outcomes for the teachers.
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My school is tiny, 300 kids K-12, we have enough cla
ssroom
space that we are going to give in person with social distancing and by extension reduced class sizes
a shot, I think my largest class right now 10. But even then
group work isn’t really a thing so most lab
work is going virtual as cleaning equipment isn’t worth the expense and time invested.
Even with this intention we are prepared to pivot to all virtual at basically a day notice.
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Ugh.
What a POS.
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Good grief. I’d honestly put the guy on blast over this, but knowing how backasswards Texas is in general, I sadly don’t think it’d do anything.
Your comment was warranted and you deserve better. That school is going to be a damn petri dish if there’s already a positive test and your principal deserves to be thrown out on his ass for being stupid.
Of all the people to lecture on a matter of science and reason, you’re lecturing one of the damn science teachers?? Pound sand, butthole.
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Unfortunately, people here would be more upset about my comment than people actually getting very sick and possibly dying. I can’t sit down in the Whataburger in town to eat a burger by myself , but spending all day with 60 or more 16-18 year olds is perfectly fine.
The school board can’t meet in person or from the admin building, but its fine for the teachers to be in class. And, no teacher is allowed to teach from home, the shuttle buses that used to help move teacher’s kids from the teacher’s campus to the students is unavailable.
They’re just upset that someone called them out on their bullshit. They only praise the teachers so much so they can feel better about paying them so little and caring about them as people even less.
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Whenever we do go hybrid ... Whether that’s in three weeks as my district hopes/intends , or in six months ... I’m told my max class size will be 10. My shop is nice and big, but my CAD lab is tiny, so that’s the max that will fit 6' apart. I went through my hand tools, and ordered enough so that I have at least 12 of everything. Big shop tools I will have to sanitize between each use.
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For the kids who opted into being in class, some of them may not have had a choice. I don’t know what meal plans look like in your school, but there are a lot of students that need that. Parents may be essential workers and really struggling.
Either that, or teenagers are dumb and just want to see their pals. I’m really sorry this is the situation you’re stuck in. I wish you and your family nothing but safety because that’s just a scary scenario.
Why did this have to go so very wrong...
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My school is in a highly affluent town with the median home price above $400k, the number of kids on free and reduced lunch plans is vanishingly small. There are no apartments within the district and 98% go on to college or university.
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Ugh. Any thoughts of leaving that job? I know it’s a location with personal ties and leaving that even when it’s toxic sucks, but it sounds like a genuinely unsafe, hostile work environment.
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I hadn’t planned on ever leaving my job here, my entire decision to become an educator had been predicated on either working here or somewhere similar. Maybe I should hit up some of my contacts and look into working at one of the local tracks as a career.
Here’s the post form today with the fallout: https://oppositelock.kinja.com/i-have-been-formally-reprimanded-for-inappropriate-comm-1844748971
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Yeah. :( Good grief, your principal sucks.